CORE Hunter Education & Hunting License Course

CORE Hunter Education & Hunting License Course 

Silvercore has added several CORE hunter education courses to meet the increased demand this fall. 

Visit www.silvercore.ca for locations near you!

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Course Overview

The Conservation and Outdoor Recreation Education (CORE) Program is British Columbia's Hunter Education Program. It is also a great program for anyone interested in outdoor recreation.

The CORE Program consists of a practical firearms handling test, and a written examination on all of the following subjects:

Outdoor ethics and game care

Firearm handling and archery equipment

Hunting regulations

Animals of British Columbia

Birds of British Columbia

Outdoor survival, first aid & field craft

Hunter heritage, conservation and wildlife management

The CORE Manual and the Hunting and Trapping Regulation Synopsis are the resource manuals used to learn these subjects.

The Examination Process

Prior to starting the examinations, the CORE Examiner will have you complete a registration form. Until both exams have been successfully completed, the registration form may be kept by the student to be shown to an examiner each time an examination is taken, otherwise the record of the successful completion of a test may be lost.

Two Tests Required

The written examination consists of 75 multiple-choice questions based on the CORE Manual and the Hunting and Trapping Regulations Synopsis.

You must obtain at least 56 points overall (75%) in order to pass the written examination. Supplemental information from the CORE Manual is not tested.

The practical firearms handling examination requires the safe handling of two of the five types of firearm actions, including the identification and loading/unloading use of dummy ammunition. A minimum score of 21 out of 27 is required for a pass. The examiner will provide the firearms.

Individuals who have satisfactorily completed the Canadian Firearm Safety Course (CFSC) need not complete the CORE practical firearm-handling examination.

If you are interested in taking the two courses to both own firearms and to get a BC resident hunter number, Silvercore recomends taking the firearms licensing course (CFSC/CRFSC) course first then the Core Hunter Education Course.

You must provide the CORE Examiner with either the completed CFSC report form showing successful test completion, or a Firearms Acquisition Certificate (FAC) issued after January 1, 1995 or a Possession and Acquisition License (PAL) to be exempted the practical firearms handling examination.

A Possession Only Licence (POL) is NOT acceptable for the exemption to the CORE practical firearms handling exam.

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Makarov with drum magazine - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

Makarov with drum magazine - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

A Russian inventor has developed an eighty round 9x18mm magazine for the Makarov PM pistol. He writes (in Russian) that the Makarov is still in use by police in Russia not because they cannot afford new pistols but because the Makarov is genuinely loved. He says the problem with them is that standard magazine only holds eight rounds and extended magazines only hold up 12 rounds. Twelve rounds is not a lot by todays standards, especially when you consider that the 9x18mm is about 30% less powerful than a 9x19mm NATO. His solution was to develop a drum magazine that holds eighty rounds. - See more at: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/11/06/magazine-makarov-pistol/#sthash.udAMqyer.dpuf

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FORCE ON FORCE TRAINING - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

FORCE ON FORCE TRAINING - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

BY HILTON YAM   |   POSTED ON 04/28/2014 |   IN TRAINING

When examining individual core skill development or the construction of a department training program, it is extremely critical to ensure the inclusion of force on force training.  Success in the tactical realm depends on mindset, mechanical skills, and good tactics.  All three should be vetted out using force on force training.  Some new wazoo Youtube technique should never be assumed to be acceptable no matter how excellent the beard of the guy demonstrating it, and nothing is worth anything if it doesn’t hold up to the harsh light of force on force application.

Force on force training should be conducted using tightly scripted scenarios, and never allowed to degenerate into paintball wars.  To build the proper winning mindset for your students, they must always be able to be successful.  In other words, never script a no win scenario.  Further, do not allow them to just “die” if they get hit.  Build a fighting mindset by forcing them to work through the barrage of paint, and their “wounds” can be critiqued when the scenario is solved.

Mechanical skills should first be taught with dry practice, tested at the range, and then reinforced with additional dry practice.  Shooters and trainers often get caught up with results on the square range, mistaking either paper target scores or par times as the complete end result for success.  There is no arguing that measurable performance metrics are important for developing and gauging skill sets, but it is vital to know that the skill sets being trained are relevant to the real world.  Script scenarios to test your skill sets, observe the techniques in action, and be critical of their utility.  Is that great new reload technique holding up while those paint pellets are flying?  Does that draw stroke work while trying to fend off role players in close quarters?

Lastly, tactics absolutely need to get ironed out in force on force training.  If you can’t safely execute the tactic while at risk from an armed adversary, then maybe you need to reexamine it.  A lot of stuff briefs up really great, but it is just hot air until you gear up and try it out.

If your department cannot afford Simunition conversion kits or you are in the CCW market and can’t attend a training by an authorized Simunition instructor, then consider using airsoft weapons instead.  Many CCW oriented instructors offer airsoft courses.  The key to this training lies in its structure, and less so on the hardware.  If you are really strapped, you can even do scenarios with inert plastic guns (like Ring’s Blueguns, but NEVER with live weapons!)  I truly feel that you are not ready for the street if you have not spent some time in force on force training.

C.T. http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=7837

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Youth Licence BC Age Range Increased- Silvercore Firearms Training BC

Youth Licence BC Age Range Increased- Silvercore Firearms Training BC

Effective April 1, 2013, an expanded age range for the Youth Hunting Licence will be in effect, making it available for youth ages 10 to 17 years, inclusive. Previously, the age range of the youth (‘junior’) hunting licence was 10 to 13 years.

It is anticipated the new licence will be available at Service BC locations and local vendors no later than March 20, 2013.

Expanding the age range of the youth hunting licence aims to ensure that hunting remains affordable for youth and their families. It also makes it easier for youth ages 14 to 17 (inclusive) to give hunting a try and to have more mentorship opportunities as they are no longer required to first complete the Conservation and Outdoor Recreation Education (CORE) course. A youth who is a B.C. resident and has completed CORE may purchase an adult hunting licence; however, a Hunter Number Card is first required.

As previously required, a parent or guardian must purchase, as well as hold, the youth hunting licence on behalf of the youth. To purchase the youth hunting licence, the parent or the guardian must sign an “Acknowledgement of Responsibility” form, confirming that the parent or guardian will be fully responsible for the actions of his or her child or ward while the child or ward is hunting or carrying a firearm. Youth (ages 10 to 17, inclusive) who participate in hunting in B.C. must be accompanied by, and under the close personal supervision of, an adult 18 years or age or older, who holds a hunting licence (unless exempted) and meets the qualifications as a supervising hunter.

Supervising Hunter For Youth

A supervising hunter must be 18 years of age or older, hold a hunting licence (other than an initiation hunting licence) or be exempted from holding a hunting licence, and meet the prescribed qualifications.

The prescribed qualifications are:

if the person is a resident, the person must hold a resident hunter number card (unless exempted);

if the person is a non-resident or non-resident alien, the person must have  passed a hunter safety training course anywhere in Canada or the USA;

the person must have held a hunting licence, other than an initiation hunting licence, in B.C. (unless exempted), or a licence to hunt elsewhere, in not fewer than 3 of any of the licence years preceding the current licence year;

if the person is an Indian residing in B.C., paragraphs (a) to (c) do not apply and the person must have received training in hunting and previously hunted lawfully without supervision, and

the person must not be prohibited from carrying or possessing a firearm.

The supervising hunter may accompany no more than two youths at one time (or no more than two initiation licence holders, or one youth and one initiation licence holder).

Bag Limits

Individual species licences may not be purchased under the youth hunting licence; youth under this licence do not have an individual bag limit for game. The supervising hunter must hold the appropriate uncancelled species licence for any species that is hunted. Any game killed by a youth must be accounted for and is part of the bag limit of the supervising hunter.

A B.C. resident youth who holds a valid expanded youth hunting licence may hunt in a Limited Entry Hunt (LEH) if accompanied by and under the close supervision of an adult who holds a valid species licence and a valid LEH authorization. The supervising hunter must cancel the species licence when an animal is taken and it is part of their bag limit.

If the youth, on whose behalf a youth hunting licence has been issued, is hunting with a licensed guide, the prescribed qualifications in item (a) to (c) do not apply to the supervising hunter and the youth is allowed their own bag limits for small game only.

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The youngest age a person can complete the CORE Hunter Education Course in BC is 10 years old - Silvercore Training BC

The youngest age a person can complete the CORE Hunter Education Course in BC is 10 years old - Silvercore Training BC

A 10 year old can take the CORE hunter education!  

Many people are asking about getting youngsters involved in hunting, particularly with the limited entry hunt (LEH) deadline fast approaching.  The key is that a 10 year old can take the CORE program. The confusion comes from the “Youth Licence” which i will address in detail in the next post.  Here is broad strokes:

Any one who is 10 years or older and completes the CORE is entitled to a resident hunter number. This lets them buy hunting licenses, species tags, have their own bag limits and enter into the LEH.  Individuals under 18 must be supervised.

The above is not true for individuals taking part in the “Youth Licence” program.  All bag limits filled under the “Youth Licence” are taken from the supervising hunter.

If you have any questions about junior hunting or the CORE program please call Silvercore Training 604-940-7785 or email info@silvercore.ca

Remember youth that complete the CORE are eligible for LEH. 

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Day 1 of the Silvercore Handgun Level 3 at the Justice Institute of BC (JIBC)

Day 1 of the Silvercore Handgun Level 3 at the Justice Institute of BC (JIBC)

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2,500 Meter Rifle Shot - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

2,500 Meter Rifle Shot - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

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Hitting a target more than 2,500 meters away proved to be no sweat for this long-range shooter, even though the bullet had to travel for almost a full five seconds in the air.

LiveLeak user Grizzman uploaded a video showing viewers his set up and successful near-1.5 mile shot with a .338 Lapua Magnum rifle and a metal target.

“A few days ago I took out the 338 Lapua and attempted the 2,500-yard shot,” Grizzman said. “So I placed the target at 2,530 yards or 1.43 miles away, at that distance the bullet flight time is almost 4.5 seconds!”

“I went out early in the morning to beat the mirage, luckly [sic] there was very little wind around 3-4 mph coming from the left, I dialed 2.6 mils Left,” the shooter explained on LiveLeak. “I had to dialed the maximum elevation my scope (Nightforce NXS 5.5-22×56 MIL/MIL) had at 27.4 mils then held over 2.5 mils on the reticle to get me to 29.9 mils.”

C.T. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/21/watch-this-incredible-long-range-rifle-shot-from-nearly-1-5-miles-away/

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Supersize Ammo - Silvercore Firearms Training

Supersize Ammo - Silvercore Firearms Training

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CHAMBERED ROUND VERIFICATION, AKA THE “PRESS CHECK” - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

CHAMBERED ROUND VERIFICATION, AKA THE “PRESS CHECK” - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

BY TIM LAU   |   POSTED ON 12/15/2012 BY TIM LAU   |   IN TRAINING

Recently, I’ve read some discussion on the Press Check, with some firearms instructors stating that it is unnecessary, that instead of a Press Check, one should simply conduct a tactical reload. Let’s start by defining what it is. A Press Check is, quite simply, the act of verifying that the weapon has a chambered cartridge and is ready to fire. On a semi-automatic pistol, this usually involves moving the slide rearward by about 3/4 of an inch and either visually or physically confirming that there is indeed a round in the chamber. In this article, I will discuss whether or not I feel this action is ever necessary to perform.

Before I go any further, let me state that my opinion comes from a very specific perspective, which may or may not be consistent with yours. My frame of reference comes from having been (and continue to be) an armed professional, for the better part of a decade-and-a-half. During this time, I carried on and off the job. I prepared for tactical missions by loading up prior to, and downloading afterward. As with most domestic law enforcement officers (and probably not enough of us do this), I carried a gun when I left work, during my off hours, and when I went back to work. These were not always the same gun. This can present issues that may not exist if one simply carries for a mission and then goes unarmed afterward; also, these issues may or may not exist in your world if you are looking at this as an armed, prepared citizen. Every tactic has a time and place, and it is always important to understand from what perspective someone is speaking from when evaluating the point being made.

On the issue of the Press Check, as I understand it, an argument against it goes something like this: the press check creates the habit of looking at the gun and decreases the user’s situational awareness. Having attended and taught one or two shooting courses in my career, I have indeed seen students ritualistically perform press checks between each and every shooting drill, so I can understand where this theory comes from. (I have also seen people ritualistically wave the gun left and right like a talisman warding away evil instead of conducting an actual assessment of their surroundings – but that article is for another day.) The anti-press-check argument continues by stating if you are unsure of the condition of your weapon due to storage issues, you should simply clear the weapon, and then reload it.

These arguments appear to stem from strict dogma that all weapon manipulations should be “tactical” and none should be simply administrative. The problem with these arguments is that they does not account for human nature and the reality of working with and being around firearms all the time. For example, I store my duty weapon in my locked locker at work. It remains loaded and ready. From time to time, someone may either go into my locker to retrieve or borrow unrelated equipment (there are master keys available to supervisors and others.) Since I am not the one and only person with potential access to my duty weapon, before I go on shift, I perform a quick press check to confirm my weapon has a chambered round and is fully loaded.

The anti-Press Check argument is to simply unload and reload every time. This can be done, but knowing policemen, many will simply not check rather than have to load and unload every time they go in service. Secondly, this advice is impractical. The big three ammunition makers (Remington, Federal and Winchester) all recommend discarding a round after it has been run through an action twice due to possible bullet setback issues and primer degradation. I don’t see cops or citizens embracing an SOP that requires them to discard or take out of service a $1-2 service cartridge every day or two.

In the case of long guns, most departments have SOP’s that dictate long guns be carried or stored in the following fashion: Chamber empty, full magazine in the gun. When preparing for a Search Warrant (for example), I will chamber a round just prior to going to the location. As many know, during the workup, there are many things that can distract you and take your attention elsewhere. While on the way, if I am unsure, I will conduct a quick press check to ensure I indeed chambered a round and am not carrying a long gun in “patrol ready”. It is cheap insurance and not done as some kind of mindless ritual.

In an ideal world, you need to know the condition of your weapon at all times. But what do you do when you realize you are unsure of the condition of your weapon? Clearing and reloading it every time is impractical, and people WILL NOT DO IT.

The Press Check is a simple and practical way to confirm your equipment is ready.

C.T. http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=1519

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Silver mounted Winchester Model 1894 Lever Action Rifle decorated by Tiffany & Co. - Silvercore Firearms BC

Silver mounted Winchester Model 1894 Lever Action Rifle decorated by Tiffany & Co. - Silvercore Firearms BC

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New 2014 Live Fire Courses from Silvercore Training

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New 2014 Live Fire Courses from Silvercore Training For further inquiries on Silvercore courses contact us, 604-940-7785 info@silvercore.ca  Skill Set Development Program New 2014 Skill Set Development Dates Refine and perfect your Handgun skills through industry structured programs designed for the armed professional while under the direct supervision and coaching of certified firearms instructors.   JIBC LESD Handgun Familiarization  New 2014 JIBC LESD Dates  Learn handgun fundamentals commonly taught to armed professionals. A good introduction to those interested in a career in the law enforcement field.

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Lever Release vs. Button Release - SILVERCORE FIREARMS TRAINING BC

Lever Release vs. Button Release - SILVERCORE FIREARMS TRAINING BC

Which is easier to build muscle memory with? 

So many people dismiss the HK-style paddle/lever mag catch without putting serious time behind it, but at the same time there are folks who can't accept that some shooters genuinely just prefer the button. Personally, the ability to hit the paddle with my trigger finger is a huge boon because it allows me to drop the mag without shifting my grip at all. SO:

Which is easier to build muscle memory with? 

Lever Release vs. Button Release

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700 grain lead flat nose bullet for the 500 S&W Magnum - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

700 grain lead flat nose bullet for the 500 S&W Magnum - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

A 700 grain lead flat nose bullet for the 500 S&W Magnum. First photo shows just the bullet next to a .40 S&W. Second photo the complete round next to a .22 LR. Third photo with a 45-70 Govt and .40 S&W flanking it. (GRH)
C.T. http://forum.pafoa.org/ammunition-reloading-25/213890-700-grain-reloads-s-w-500-a.html

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THE MODIFIED GLOCK - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

THE MODIFIED GLOCK - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

BY JERRY JONES   |   POSTED ON 04/14/2014 |   IN 10-8 CONSULTING COURSES 10-8 PERFORMANCE GEAR MODERN SERVICE PISTOLS WEAPON MAINTENANCE WEAPON MODIFICATION

Glocks tend to run great out of the box.  They are reliable, and accurate.  I have a friend who shoots a lot of 3 gun and IDPA with a completely stock Glock 17 with the plastic sights, and does it well.  Some folks like to simply change out of the plastic “filler” sights that come stock, for aftermarket sights such as 10-8′s.I like my Glocks a bit more modified.  Above is a brand new Gen4 G19 that is a recent acquisition.  The gun shot great out of the box, but there are changes that I like to make for my own benefit.The first thing that has to go for me is the serrated trigger and trigger bar that come standard on compact and subcompact Glocks.  After a few hundred rounds down range, the serrated trigger becomes bothersome for me, so I just swap it out for the non-serrated full size trigger.

The next thing I like to change is the connector.  While the stock connector, or (-) minus connector can be shot well, I like the addition of the Ghost Rocket 3.5 “Deluxe”.  Across the dozen or so Glocks that I own, the trigger pull across the board with the Ghost Rocket and factory trigger return spring lends a pull of about 4.25 to 4.5 pounds.  But the reduction in poundage isn’t the reason I like them.  I like them because I can get a smooth prep shot to shot, even at four or five shots per second.  The factory connectors tend to wind up with a little “pressure wall” at the end of the trigger stroke, when can disrupt the sights just a bit at the time of ignition.

Moving onward, I add an extended slide stop to my G19′s.  While I don’t like them on the G26, G17, or G34 (or the .40 caliber counterparts), I do like the extended slide stop on the G19.A good set of sights.  I like and advocate 10-8′s.  I also have guns set up with Trijicon HD’s, and Scott Warren’s.  The thing I’ll caution people to is that you do need to research the particular sights before you purchase them, if you intend on shooting the gun past conversational distances.  A lot of the sighting systems out there will cause the point of impact to be above the point of aim on Glocks.  It is the nature of the beast.

I like the “butt plug” on the Glock, and have used them for years.  On the Gen3′s I used mainly the Jentra, but this round I bought two or three and tried them out.  I use them for an aid on the reload, and the Pearce seems to work the best for me.

Rounding the gun out with an Apex FRE, some spare recoil springs, a few plus two extensions to play with and 20 new G19 factory magazines, and this is going to probably be my primary training and teaching gun for 2014.Glocks run fine out of the box.  If you like a little modification, like I do, they run a bit better!

C.T. http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=7622

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Accuracy International (AI) -Silvercore Firearms Training BC

Snipers aim to remain unseen but one made headlines last month when he killed six Taliban in Afghanistan with a single shot, by hitting the trigger of a suicide bomb.

The near 1,000-yard shot the British soldier took was made using an L115A3 rifle produced by Accuracy International (AI), a small company based on the outskirts of Portsmouth.

This feat is just one of many achieved by troops armed with AI products. The world record of 2,710 yards – more than a mile and a half – is held by Corporal of Horse Craig Harrison, of the Household Cavalry.
Shooting at a Taliban machine-gun position that was attacking an Afghan army patrol, it took Harrison’s bullet nearly three seconds to hit its target – a shot he then repeated twice more.
That AI can produce rifles capable of such precision is incredible in itself. That the company which makes the weapon of choice for Britain’s elite marksmen and special forces started out in the garage of one of its founders is perhaps even more remarkable.


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SHOOTING WITHOUT…YOURSELF - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

BY ARIK LEVY   |   POSTED ON 04/10/2014 |   Silvercore

 So, what the hell does that mean? We often go to the range, start shooting a drill or even bullseye practice, and begin to make judgements.  “Damn, my shots keeping going to the left.”  “I’m shooting too slow”.  “Why can’t my group look like his group?” or even, “I suck!”  This is your ego or more commonly known as the conscious mind.  It tells us what’s going on.  It’s that running monologue in your head.  This reminds of me of the scene in the iconic Tom Cruise movie, “The Last Samurai.”  In it, our hero has learned the art of the sword and is in a competition with one of the instructors.  As it goes on, he has a hard time connecting and summarily gets his butt kicked.

At this point one of the spectators chimes in on the downtrodden student and gives him the following advice.  “..please forgive me, too many minds”  “..What?” he asks.  “..mind the sword, mind face, mind the people watching, ..to many mind”  Again our hero is puzzled.  “No Mind..” the sage guides him.

Tom was worried about too many things (see what you can relate to):  Thinking about his technique.  Thinking about how he felt.  Thinking about what other people were thinking…Too many minds.  No mind.  You need to calm that inner center and stop the conscious from “trying” to take over.  Studies have show that the conscious mind can only truly concentrate on one thing at a time.  The subconscious can handle multiple things at the same time.  That’s why you hear coaches and teachers expound the doing from the subconscious.  But far too often that sounds like a bunch of mumbo jumbo.  What does it really mean?

You need to develop your subconscious skills (drawing, pulling the trigger, grip, etc.) through hours of repetition of dry practice.  Sounds like a lot.  10 minutes a day becomes over an hour a week, which then becomes 4 hours a month, which becomes almost 50 hours a year.  I’ve been there.  Ten minutes grows to 15 minutes easily because we like to do it.  Once we commit to working the subconscious, we no longer need to worry about it.  It’s there in the background, skill without thought.  We then need to turn off the constant chatter of the ego and let the skill work.  Try it at your next practice.  No mind…

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How Not To Dry Off Your Polymer Pistol - Silvercore Firearms Training

How Not To Dry Off Your Polymer Pistol - Silvercore Firearms Training

During all of Silvercore's firearms courses we caution our students to view information from the internet with scrutiny.  Individuals often bring up the using home appliances for one reason or another to clean guns. Here is a cautionary tale:

These photos are of a Sig Sauer Pro that was left in an electric oven at 210°c / 400°f for 20 minutes. After cleaning it was put in to dry. The owner was then distracted by a phone call. -

C.T. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/22/sig-oven-bad-idea/

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GLOCK VS. M&P REVISITED - Silvercore Firearms Training

GLOCK VS. M&P REVISITED - Silvercore Firearms Training

BY HILTON YAM   |   POSTED ON 04/07/2014   |   IN MODERN SERVICE PISTOLS

A couple years ago, I wrote an article titled “Glock vs. M&P…or Why I Shoot An M&P.”  At the time that I wrote the article, the Gen4 Glock was still in an early phase of adoption and had some function issues, and the M&P had not yet begun what is now the most current round of production upgrades. Since no one seems to read the linked articles, I’ll sum it up for you right here: I opted to work around the issues of the M&P, using that as my primary training gun – M&P fans cheered, Glock fans burned me in effigy. I thought it would be worthwhile to revisit this now that the state of both pistols has changed quite a bit in the last couple years. 

The M&P has undergone a series of production upgrades in the last 2 years which makes it a very strong candidate for an out of the box service pistol, with no significant flaws.  The previously known issues with accuracy of the factory barrels with the 1:18.75″ twist have been resolved with new barrels featuring a 1:10″ twist, the same as in factory Glock barrels.  The M&P is no longer ammunition sensitive, and provides accuracy similar to the Glock using various bullet weights.  The M&P slide stop, trigger bar, and sear have gone through several generational changes, and the latest guns have crisp breaking trigger with reduced overtravel and positive reset.

Glocks, in particular the Gen4 9mm variants, have undergone changes with the ejectors and recoil spring assemblies, largely resolving the reliability issues of the early guns.

If you are shooting .40 because of departmental constraints, then the playing field has leveled out a bit with the production of the Gen4 Glock, which offers a purpose built dual recoil spring system which significantly softens the recoil and promotes greater longevity than the Gen3 guns.  Function with attached weapon lights is also dramatically improved in the Gen4.  Only 2 years ago, the clear choice in .40 was the M&P, but now users have the added option of the Gen4 Glock 22 or 23.

On of the other quirks that I highlighted in the original article compared reloading in both guns, and that has not changed.  The M&P still has the edge in factory configuration, as the Glock frames still have the big hole at the rear of the frame which is a huge snag point for incoming reloads.  If department policy permits, this is an easy fix with the installation of an inexpensive grip plug.

Another feature was that of magazine disassembly, which for some reason brought on some bit of ire from readers.  The Glock magazine is still slower and more difficult to disassemble than the M&P – if you don’t believe me, time yourself disassembling 4 mags.  Why should you care?  If you train enough, you’ll end up out in the rain or mud and a mag is sure to end up nose down in something which should be cleaned out of the tube.  The M&P mag is quick to disassemble for cleaning, and my Glock mags have defaulted to getting brushed out in the assembled state.  No real functional advantage to either platform here, just different if you are rebuilding mags or installing base pads (which I do a lot, since we seem to have a lot of those here).

Given the choice between the two bone stock pistols as pictured above, the current state of manufacturing has left us in a dead heat.  Sorry, not much fodder for flaming me on fan forum threads, but it’s a good thing for the end user as both the Glock and M&P are solid contenders now.  It’s just up to you to choose which one fits your needs best.

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Silvercore Firearms Training Head Office April 2014

Silvercore Firearms Training Head Office April 2014

A nice sunny day hear at the Silvercore head office in Delta. A CORE hunter education course just warped-up in the upstairs classroom. We hope every one gets some trigger time this weekend.

Silvercore Firearms Training Head Office April 2014

Silvercore Firearms Training Head Office April 2014

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Custom Gun Room with Private Range - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

Custom Gun Room with Private Range - Silvercore Firearms Training BC

These pictures have been kicking around the for a long time but that doesn’t make them any less spectacular.  I think we all can agree this is how all our gun collections should be housed. 

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